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In comments, [livejournal.com profile] drood points me to this from Mr. Lileks
[gnat banged her head]

I wonder if I’m alone. I love current events and politics,, I’m fascinated to see history roll along before my eyes, and I’m sick to death of it. All of it. I turn on the radio in the morning, and it takes about three minutes before the waddling parade of canards begins.

Here’s a good question to gauge whether you’re sane or not. Which would you prefer: four more years of Bush, or a military coup that put Kerry in power? If it takes you more than 2 seconds to reply, and you follow your answer with any sort of amplification that contains the word “but,” seek help. The other day, for example, I was listening to Medved. He played a clip of Bush stumbling over “abu Ghraib.” Fun with talk radio: find the exact moment in this call to Medved’s show where the people who liked the caller’s point suddenly said “aw, crap.”

“Yeah, why don’t you play Bush trying to pronounced Abu Ghraib over and over again like you played that sound from Howard Dean? You’re such a Zionist hypocrite.”

[not that this, like, excuses anything, but we happen to know that our allies in Russia did really bad stuff to prisoners in Chechnya]

Got it? If you don't support Bush, you support the violent overthrow of the United States government and you hate jews and you are an apologist for the russian government.

Because, you know, Kerry is the one who is floating a proposal to put the US under martial law in case of a terrorist attack and who is in bed with the saudis and who lends his moral authority to people who commit torture casually if it helps their political goals.

Oh, no, wait, that's Bush.

But, see, if nobody ever disagreed with him, he wouldn't have to do this stuff.

I mean, it's not like he's the kind of guy who amused himself as a child by torturing frogs.

Well, it is, but the liberals probably had something going on with the frogs. We don't know.

shudder.

Date: 2004-05-28 07:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kodi
It occurs to me, on reading this, that Lileks is a troll. I can't think of any reasonable way to respond to this without comparing either Bush or Kerry to Hitler. It's the hideous love child of Kobayashi Maru and Godwin's law, and while I commend Lileks on his mastery of trolling, he's still just a troll.

Date: 2004-05-28 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drownedinink.livejournal.com
I know this Lileks and I shouldn't ask such questions, but...

How is mocking a Democratic candidate for shouting equivalent to a sitting President being completely unable to pronounce the name for something that has been a huge deal for weeks?

Even more so than many conservative talking heads, Lileks doesn't make sense to me. This is just like the time he found it absurd that someone should envy another country's social structures...

Date: 2004-05-28 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jmhm.livejournal.com
OK, here's the problem I have with the whole pronouncing Abu Ghraib thing.

The trouble he was having looked an awful lot like a man pronouncing a word that was written on a page in front of him and which he'd never heard said out loud.

Now, it seems to me that when your army has been caught committing war crimes and there are calls for the resignation of your SecDef _from Congress_ over it, someone should have in the following two weeks brought it up in a meeting.

Date: 2004-05-28 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drownedinink.livejournal.com
You're absolutely right.

It's not only an amusing sound byte, but a pretty good indicator of how seriously and how well Bush takes his job.

Date: 2004-05-28 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jmhm.livejournal.com
Seems odd that he would have a problem with that. He seems to have a positive tendresse for the idea of being a middle-class white guy in the social structure of the fifties.

Date: 2004-05-28 08:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aberrantangels
Somebody needs to be asking him the same question in reverse: which would he prefer, to see John Kerry take office on the 20th of January next or to see Bush reinstalled by a military coup? (Except, of course, that we all know the answer: he's convinced the Gnat will die crawling through the radioactive rubble of Target with her fingers falling off if George W. Bush ever stops being President.)

It's a shame, because I used to have the Institute of Official Cheer bookmarked. Hell™, I may bookmark it again sometime. If he'd been content to do only stuff like that — nostalgic for 50s kitsch, but with an awareness of its flaws — I'd applaud him. As it is, I can't buy the Gallery of Regrettable Food book because that would subsidize more columns about how, because Noam Chomsky hasn't already been locked up, his criticisms of our government are wholly without factual basis, and because Chomsky was wrong about the Khmer Rouge, he's also wrong about America.

Fuck Lileks. Fuck him completely. I wish I could do as my parents tell me and say "just let it go", but there are too damn many of these people out there, and they all want me dead. (That's one syllogism the 'rents don't seem able to grasp: I am a liberal; these people want all liberals dead; therefore, these people want me dead.)

Date: 2004-05-28 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiderfarmer.livejournal.com
Here's a funny political ad that will never get run that I think you'll find relevant. ;)

Date: 2004-05-28 12:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] richardf8
Which would you prefer: four more years of Bush, or a military coup that put Kerry in power?

I like this line. I'm going to spin it in a way I'm sure Lileks never intended. Because, you see, these are our choices. If Bush loses the election he could very easily attempt to continue to occupy the post. Seize emergency powers and insist that we cannot change horses in midstream and all that. Bush is that much of a megalomaniac and cares that little for the rule of law and the will of the people. So indeed, it may well take a coup to put Kerry in the whitehouse if he wins.

Thanks to Mr. Lileks for this insight into the character of the current administration.

Date: 2004-05-28 01:18 pm (UTC)
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Dubya's 99 Problems

Date: 2004-05-29 11:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dubya's 99 Problems - (done in white-face with a Glock in each hand) If you're havin' human rights problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but Iraq ain't one I got the Neo-Con patrol on the spin patrol Foes that wanna make sure my casket's closed Democrat critics that say he's "Big Oil Hoes" I'm from blueblood's stupid, what type of facts are those If you grew up with cholo's in ya Zapato Oil You'd celebrate the minute you was havin' dough I'm like fuck critics you can kiss my whole asshole If you don't like my lyrics you can move to Central Got beef with radio if they don't play my show They don't play my spit well i'll censor their shit so Pop rags try and use my lily-white ass So advertisers can give 'em more cash for ads...fuckers I don't know what you take me as or understand the intelligence that Dubya has I'm from profiteers to riches niggas i ain't dumb I got 99 problems but Iraq ain't one Hit me If you're havin' human rights problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but Iraq ain't one The year is '76 and my trunk is raw In my rear view mirror is the mother fuckin' law I got two choices y'all pull over the car or (hmmm) Bounce on the devil put the pedal to the floor Now i ain't tryin' to see no highway chase with jake Plus i got a few million dollars i can fight the case So i...pull over to the side of the road And i heard "Son do you know what i'm stoppin' you for?" Cause i'm young and i'm white and my bottle's on the floor Do i look like a mind reader sir, i don't know Am i under arrest or should i guess some mo'? "Well you was doin seventy-five in a fifty-four" "License and registration and step out of the car" "Are you carryin' a Bible on you i know alot of you are" I ain't steppin out of shit all my papers legit "Do you mind if i look round the car a little bit?" Well my glove compartment is locked so is the trunk and the back And i know my rights so you gon' need a warrant for that "Aren't you sharp as a tack, are some type of lawyer sport?" "Or somebody important in Kennibunkport?" Nah i ain't pass the bar but i know a little bit Enough that you won't illegally search the rich "We'll see how smart you are when the D.A. come" I got 99 problems but Iraq ain't one Hit me If you're havin' human rights problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but Iraq ain't one Now once upon a time not too long ago A preppie like myself had to strong arm the fools This is not the fools in the sense of havin' money But fools havin' no God damn sense, try and push me I tried to ignore 'em and talk to the Lord Pray for 'em, cause some fools just love to perform You know the type rich as Mouton Crue But wouldn't bust a mil in a energy rule The only thing that's gonna happen is i'mma sell the Rangers I think when it's all said and done, stranger I've made more money than I ever dreamed of, there Back through the system with the riff-raff again Fiends on the Death Row scratchin' again Paparazzis with they cameras snappin' them Background tried to give the preppie shaft again Fifteen-mil to bail cause i'm a Bush son All because this fool was harrassin' them Tryin' to play the boy like he's saccharin' But ain't nothin' sweet 'bout how i spit my fun I got 99 problems, bein' a Bush ain't one Hit me If you're havin' human rights problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but Iraq ain't one http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol17/issue19/pols.bush.html

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